Are you looking for a place where you can incorporate hot yoga along with strength and endurance training? Look no further than Arrichion (uh – RICK – ee – ahn). On our newest podcast, Mahala sits down with Bishop Daniels, one of the the owners and instructors at Arrichion in East Raleigh, to learn more about this unique yoga experience.
Arrichion offers many levels of classes every type of Yogi. They even have a program so you can become a trained instructor.
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Are you looking for a place where you can incorporate hot yoga along with strength and endurance training? Look no further than Arrichion (uh – RICK – ee – ahn). On our newest podcast, Mahala sits down with Bishop Daniels, one of the the owners and instructors at Arrichion in East Raleigh, to learn more about this unique yoga experience.
Arrichion offers many levels of classes every type of Yogi. They even have a program so you can become a trained instructor.
Get to know Arrichion:
Reach out to The Rachel Kendall Team:
Hey Triangle lovers. Welcome to Making Moves hosted by The Rachel Kendall Team where we will explore together the top restaurants, community hotspots and events in our area. Let's make some moves. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Making Moves. I have been told that I don't introduce myself. So I'm Mahala landin. I'm the Broker in Charge of The Rachel Kendall Team and we are here with Bishop Daniels. He is the owner and I think you are a native to North Carolina. Is that right? At this point. Okay. And he is a local business owner of Arrichion Yoga. Did I say it right? Say it phonetically for me,. Uh RICK ee ahn - it is a really diverse and interesting yoga facility. And the I would, I would call it Raleigh, like not even North Raleigh like you're right in the center, the heart of our wonderful community. So Bishop, tell me a little bit about you and what your background is, and just how you stumbled into this business ownership world. Well, I have a name is Bishop. I am like Mahala said I'm native North Carolina, but not really from here. My dad was an Army brat. I grew up in Cary, North Carolina, I spent most of my adult years in healthy, active, as well as being a school teacher for about 18 years preschool kindergarten teacher for 18 years. worked part time as a yoga teacher for the last seven, and then decided to venture out and own my own yoga studio about a year ago. Awesome. So let's dive into that a little bit deeper. So army brat, like so many people that come into our area? How many times did you move prior to making your way into carry? Um, I think it was for I was born in upstate New York. Spent some time in Virginia, then I was in Panama, and Fayetteville for a brief amount of time, not long enough to say I was there. Then Garner for about two years and or year and a half and then carry. So I went to junior high and care and went to well Middle School and carry in high school and carry so yeah, and that's actually how we know each other. So I'm a carry brought to us, right. Alright, so moving around is something that we talk about a lot as real estate agents. And although this is not necessarily real estate podcast, what's the impact that you felt moving around as often as you did prior to middle school? And what were some of the things that happen that kind of shaped who you are today? Well, I was always had, I had three sisters, and Rob close in age was my twin. So we were always together. So we always had the three of us. I mean, I always had the two of them to rely on. I think it shaped me being a little bit more outgoing, a little bit able to kind of, you know, get into something new and and kind of figure it out and keep going. How did you find the community? How did you get connected when you were that age moving around as often as you did? Oh, sports and just our parents putting us into a lot of different programs and community centers and camps and things like that. And, you know, once when you move around like that a lot. It's it's hard sometimes to get to figure things out, but it's also kind of fun, because we went from and I forgot to say, we live in Korea as well. But we went from being in Virginia, which at the time was kind of like you know, south, so it's different to live in, in Panama, which was all you know, the weather was great all the time. We had the greatest friends, but Spanish knew we spoke Spanish with different foods, but we're also there during the Panama invasion in 1989. I think it was eight I can't remember. So that was a little crazy. So like just live going through basically what a child was, you know, kind of shaped a lot of my shaped who we were as kids. And then moving to North Carolina was just like the biggest culture shock ever just because you know, you weren't you never prepared for I vision of Carolina when I was a kid. I always thought it was like Andy Griffith Show. I thought it was like Mayberry. I didn't understand. That's right. I just thought everything was kind of you know, you walk around and there's cows and wild animals. Listen, I grew up in Cary in the 80s and went to downtown rally schools, middle school, elementary school, and even then I was asked if I lived on a farm because of Kildare farms being such a large part of where we live. So I Yeah, it is a culture shock. And then you come in and there's these beautiful communities, and we're so lucky to have so much opportunity and infrastructure and business. And it's it's been a really fun time to watch our little town grow up. So where did you end up landing for college? So I went to a bunch of different colleges. It was, I guess, I was like think of life as in stages. So at that stage, I was trying to figure things out, I spent my whole for four to know, probably six years wrestling. And then when I got to college, what I tried to do was I went to a smaller school to try to get better grades. And that way would give me more opportunities to maybe possibly walk onto a wrestling team in the area. So I went to I started school at St. Augustine's College in downtown Raleigh. Then I went to NC State for a little bit, went to USC G, Wake Tech, Durham Tech, and then went back to Wake Tech, where I finished off with certificate and teaching preschool, preschool age kids and kindergarten and so so the one thing I'm hearing from you is the one thing constant is change. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And teaching is teaching and teaching is something that I'm really passionate about as well. You know, I started teaching, dance growing up. And it was one of those things where the more you teach, the better you are. And I found that as I would teach fundamentals to younger kids, it actually helped me be more aware of what those fundamentals were in my own dance practice. And then moving on, I started working in Pilates, and teaching Pilates. And again, it I started doing Pilates, it was pure conditioning, pure, you know, learning how the body moves, and the mechanics and the kinesiology and then I became a better dancer, it was too late, I was way too old for doing that, but it definitely opened up my eyes to all of the things that teaching can provide. So you know, you being an athlete, all through school and college, and then going into teaching a whole different world, what did that what did that do for you in terms of opening your eyes to what you want to do with your life. Um, so I never envisioned myself being a teacher. I was never even one of those things. Like I didn't know what I wanted to do in life, but I knew I didn't want to be a teacher. But I taught at a summer camp at this school my mother worked at, and I had so much fun over the summer. And then I what I did was after this summer was over, and I was back at school, I would come back in and help out at the school in the, in the older classrooms with the four or five year olds. And I really enjoyed it. And I found that it was my calling, because I kind of just came with ease. And, but once I even once I kind of decided that's what I want to do, I still thought to myself, you know, I do this for a couple years, and I'm gonna, you know, find something else to do. But I didn't know what else I was. It just was as a man and it just like, you know, thinking about as being a teacher, and you know, knowing that teachers don't make that much money, but you know, I always felt that you get paid and you know, the value, the friendships and the love that you get from the kids gonna love you, you give them but I, I've learned from them, patients also learn just to, you know, when kids look at the look at the world differently than we do, you know, they don't know the word no, or, you know, you can't do this, you can't do that. Or if they're doing art or anything, they just, it's creative. They just do what they want. And they move on. Yeah. And I found that, that was something that I wanted to be even as an adult, I wanted to be able to create things and, you know, just be like, I don't know what it is, but it made me feel good. I'm gonna walk away. And you know, I'll come back to it, or I'll start something else. And I'll make that and, you know, made me feel good, I make something else. And I think that was something as far as being a teacher, then I started doing art when I was about 2526. And it was just kind of just seeing the creativity and how easy how easy it came to children because they didn't think about, you know, you know, society what society might tell us, right? Yeah, they're not doing it for anybody other than themselves. And I have had a few education providers on Making Moves. So go back and listen to those if you haven't, but one of the things that is so important as parents or even adult figures in children's lives is to continue to foster that. Like you can do great things. And you can do those great things for yourself. You don't need my my approval or my you know, constant, like praise for you to feel fulfilled. And my kids drive me bananas because that's how I was raised. Like, you go to dance, you got dropped off, you got picked back up, you know you were doing that for you. Yeah. And they're like, watch me watch me and I'm like I can't like at number one, it gives me anxiety. Like watch you do flips because now they're in cheer and doing all this stuff. But I love that you embrace that, that side of children of just they're so free and what a great place to be and something to be reminded of as adults. Your artwork is something that I did want to get to. So I'm glad that you mentioned that. Your whole studio has a lot of artwork incorporated into it. So what describe what that has done or what that creative process looks like for you. I mean, it's hard to talk about art on a podcast. But you know, what is? What does that mean to you? What is it that inspires you to create that art? So I started by just, I didn't know what I was doing nothing about art, I was a kid that if he asked me to cut out something, I'd cry and asked my sister to do it, are you left handed? You know, I just didn't want I didn't want to do it. I was just like, you know, why would we do this, I didn't like the color, or anything, all I could do was be outside smashing stuff, playing games. And, but once I started doing it, um, it came from a point of, you know, when you're in your 20s, you have an apartment, or you have something and I didn't like the, you know, the silly movie, quote, signs and all that stuff. So I just thought to myself, Hey, let me you know, try painting. Just take a canvas and paint it blue, or painted yellow. And then I went to an art store just asked a million questions to spend way too much money, wasted, wasted art products. And it started from a point of just, you know, seeing what things what happened when you take this from, you know, decide to take this from this site and mash it together. And once I kind of learned and kind of got the hang of what I was doing it my art just kept evolving. And now what I do, especially incorporated with a yoga studio is everything to me, I look at all things as far as like, what, how can I use this? How can I create something different with that, like, I'll take a lot of found materials. And when I say found materials, a lot of things that you would just either don't want to trash or recycle, and try to create things with it. And it's just, it's satisfying to me is I wish I had more time to do it. At this point, I'll have a lot of time anymore to kind of create things, but it's just, it's fun. And it's like, I'll take a yoga mat, and I'll paint it and I'll burn it and I'll glue it so you can still smash and you can still destroy things. Yeah, it gets to become a creative process. My stress down and it keeps on something that I love to do. I mean, I mean, basically, you know, art, I guess it's the same way as teaching, I don't you know, I'm not doing it for money, I'm doing it for my own happiness. And as selfish as that sounds, I guess, the first and only thing I can do to make anything else happy to make anybody else happy has made myself. So that's actually what a piece of our culture at the Rachael Kendall team is, you know, it's okay to be selfish sometimes. Because being able to achieve your goals is actually beneficial to your family, it is beneficial to your clients. Yeah. And it is beneficial to the people that are around you, because that's the energy that we put out there. So I definitely agree with you've got to, you know, pour into yourself in order to give back whether that be in teaching art, or now being a business owner. So how did this come into the world after teaching and art and now all of a sudden yoga is in your life. Um, so this is a far cry from wrestling, and also bashing things outside to go the peaceful meditation. So the whole way the yoga journey started for me was a Ricky on his A, the first workout gym was in Raleigh, and my roommate at the time, and his sister, were deciding to form a hot yoga studio. And I thought I had tried yoga before, but I just thought it was like, Yeah, whatever. I don't know, who would want to really do yoga, you know? Like, it's just yoga. Because I mean, I love to work out and I thought yoga was fine, but I just thought, you know, I want to work out what to do. I want to break a sweat. I want to, you know, feel like, yeah, and I'm gonna go run cardio. Yeah. So they opened their yoga studio, I would say about 12 years ago now. And at first I was there as just a workout. And they were my roommates at the time. So whatever they did, I once I got off of work, I went and worked out as well. And then I started teaching. I started I started teaching just with teaching circuit training classes. So I did a lot of things that were, you know, familiar to me. So break that down, because you know, when I think a yoga Yeah, I'm definitely thinking about the mat work. Yeah. vinyasa flow. Yeah. You know, or potentially I know they don't call it big room anymore. But what is it the 24 or 12 poses? Things like 20 something Yeah, remember the number Yeah, that's that's the world that I'm accustomed to. So when you say circuit training and yoga, what does that mean? So I'm sorry. So with Ricky on what we do is we offer hot yoga, and as well as we offer like circuit training, HIIT classes kind of thing. And that was something that was familiar to me and my my my buddy tied the owner. He asked me if I wanted to teach and I kept telling him no, I don't want to do it. Because I was just content with just working out every day that I was I'd like to split up my day like, I have the time to, you know, kind of move around and do what I want. Basically, I've just been sitting molding young lives. Yeah. I'm not interested in doing this anymore. Yeah. So I started, I taught like a Saturday morning, I was like, This is great. This is, this is fun. I like it. And it was similar just to teaching like the teaching kids, it was, I mean, I think it's like at the yell at. And so I started doing that. And then they asked me to teach a yoga class, which I still was kind of hesitant to doing. And they just taught me the script for one of our what are the class that we're most known for, which is our Tiger's eye class, which is half of like a circuit workout where you have a bunch of stations where you might do like, a bench press, squats, push ups, that kind of thing. Using machines, and then you'd go in and do half of a Vinyasa flow yoga class, a similar feel like vinyasa flow yoga class, and I really liked doing it. And it was it was comfortable, because it was only half a yoga class. So that they and the best thing about friends like having friends like that they weren't, there was no like, Hey, we're gonna give you some time. It was like, Okay, we showed you how to do it now teach it. And they, so I did that. And then I did the teacher training. And I did to watch an hourly level teacher training, that is a rich archaeon. Does they have their own teaching certificate? Yeah, yeah. So I did that. And still, it was it was fun, and, you know, kind of broaden my horizon of what yoga meant. And I learned a lot and became a better teacher for it. And then I went on to doing the 300 hour level yoga, which was kind of just, basically I guess, in layman's terms, it's like, you go from, you know, your undergrad to you know, your graduate graduate. Yeah. And that was like, Okay, I really like doing this. And at the time, I felt like with teaching, I wasn't really caught in a rut, but I just knew that like my, that my interests lie in other places. And I did at teaching, I started to feel like my day was I was at school teaching eight hours a day. But there were so many times, like, if I had our lunch break, I would think about all the other things I could get accomplished through the day if I didn't have to be here doing this. And that's like that gut instinct that we all have that we all have to trust. Yeah. And I think that's actually a great element of yoga is learning how to trust yourself and your intuition, of being able to say, and you had already said it, like, I didn't think I was going to stay here forever. But you saw that door open. And then you went to go do that I have, I've had a couple conversations with other entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs. And I think we all get that sense of, there's got to be more out there. You know, and I love I some people disagree, but I love the more mentality, like what else? What else is out there for me to explore and discover? You know, I was 18 when I got my Pilates certification. And I started teaching. And the reason why I did that was because I didn't have the money to take the classes. And I'm like, so those that can't do teach. Yeah. You know, but it opened up so many doors, and I met so many dynamic people, being a teacher, and a lot of those people are still in my world, and I can see them and they've taken their love of Pilates out there. So I love that you trusted your gut. And you said, Yep, you know, I'm going to take that leap of faith. I'm going to go do this. So now we're full time yoga instructor. Yeah. Oh. It's, uh, yeah. So I opened. Right? Pandemic stuff. I feel like the pandemic hits are making moves podcast in almost every episode, because it it really was a life changing. It is a life changing event for all of us. And, you know, I was meeting with somebody from Ronald McDonald House just a few minutes ago. And it there have been positives and there have been negative. So what was what was the hardest part about opening your business? Did you have been 2020? Or was it end of 2019? Yeah. So what was the biggest? What? 2019? Yeah, yeah. What was the biggest obstacle? I mean, honestly, like, what, where were where were you in that headspace of operating in a pandemic? Me? I didn't understand because I had never ran my own business before. So I was I was optimistic. But I was nervous. And I guess I was still trying to, like figure things out. So it was like, I didn't understand the way like, you know, do I pay the rent? Do you know I need equipment? I don't have anybody at this gym. Right. You know, and it was a it was just a lot of waiting time. I guess I didn't understand. You know, it just was a lot of it was kind of a fog, I guess. Everyday just felt the same. And, you know, at the time, I think anybody knew what questions to ask or who knew the answer to what you know. So Nobody had a crystal ball. And you being a new business owner in 2020, didn't get to take advantage of the PPP loans or the things that were out there because you didn't have a payroll or you didn't have that. And I think that's something that, you know, although in the media, we all heard like, this is the these are the opportunities for every business owner, it really wasn't. If you didn't have the background, and you were just starting in the business, right, you couldn't choose between rent or this because you didn't have any supplement your way. You basically got a check. That was like, Thanks for applying. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, you know, Pat, on the back kind of thing, like, are you gonna take this? And I'm, you know, working with real estate agents as closely as I do, you know, that was something I was trying to guide people like how here here, go talk to this person or go talk to this person? Because it was a lot, and it was constantly coming at you as a as a contract employee of what you could or could not do? And nobody would nobody had the answers. Yeah, so totally stressful. Yeah. Can't even imagine. So when do you feel like things really lifted and you were able to get started on your business? So it was almost like a two part plan we open. So when they said we could open we open with all the restrictions and mandates, which are still, you know, to this day, which is still confusing, and you're not sure, you know, is it? Is there a right or wrong? Or is it like, legal and illegal? You know, like, was this a suggestion? Or is this like a really I have to do? Yeah, so I didn't really actually feel to be open, which I cannot remember which month it was, until they said we could take the mask off, because yoga and working out is already hard enough. But once you add the added element of a mask, which takes some getting used to for a lot of people. And it didn't bother me, but I know if you're paying for a service, the last thing you want to do is something obstructing you from taking that service. So it was tough to kind of get going. But I felt like once we took those mask off and people were able to come in and see the benefits they were getting from you know hot yoga especially that we already have one open on the other side of Raleigh that that now this one's closer to your home wherever you live with with East Raleigh growing so much that you know, right in your backyard. Yeah. And then we start to see some growth and everything. Yeah. So there's two locations. And so if you if you're a member of one you remember both I know so you've you are a member of one you're basically a member that studio, there's actually more than two locations. There is I think five now there's one is two in Raleigh, one in Durham, one in Charlotte and one always in Salt Lake City, so that's interesting. Yeah. Or part Salt Lake City or parks in Salt Lake City. Yeah, it's gonna give us so um, what is what does it look like? Like what are the class offerings? You've mentioned? The the one that the core class that you guys are known for, which is half circuit, half vinyasa. Yeah. Tell me a little bit more about what you guys offer. Um, so we offer a variety of classes, ranging from Tiger's eye, which is, you know, like said the best of both worlds where you're getting an A circuit workout and flow yoga workout, we have one that's basically a hot Pilates class. A lot of core work called crystals, we have topaz, which is our fundamental class, similar to what became the software kind of goes through our basic poses our basic foundation of our of our studio, we have diamond, which is a voice led class, the lights are dim, that's you're holding the pose a lot, a lot, a lot longer. good stretch. We kind of like a yen. Yeah, yep. And then we have warrior, which is not yoga at all. It's all in the, in our on our circuit side, where we have all our weights and everything that class varies from studio to studio. And I think that yeah, that's all the offers we have. So that's awesome. Yeah. What, what's the what is the foundational culture of the yoga studio? Like who's common? What are they getting from it? What are your clients saying about your, their experience with you? So basically, the principle and that's coming from what they started with the rally is to say our yoga is accessible to everybody. And the variety that we have, allows for you too, if you want to take you know, maybe one of the slower paced classes such as Topaz or dive in, you can get that in a good stretch. Or you could come in and you know, really put I'm sorry, I forgot one of our classes called bloodstone. You can really come in and do a flow class where you're up and down. You get a great workout in so it's more of yoga for athletes yoga for the everyday kind of person, you know, we have that spiritual and mental and physical balance but less more of you're finding that yourself. I mean, I think we all find that if we're in a hot room your brain immediately turns off the minute your focus more on not passing out. Yeah. I feel like I'm in good shape. And I go to Hot Yoga and I'm like this is this is mentally and physically challenging. And I think that we all need that push because number one, we sit too much. Yeah. And we don't move around enough. And I feel like movement is such a healing thing for our bodies. But if when you're in that room and it's hot, it's one of those things where you don't have the choice but not be inward of your thoughts. Yeah. And I love the idea of circuit training with yoga because we, we love the idea of flexibility. But we we can be flexible and not strong. And I've tried to teach my children that too, because they're super bendy. Yeah. And they're able to do a lot, but they don't have they're learning how to have strength behind flexibility. You as an athlete, I'm sure you had to deal with that as well. How would you describe the benefit of strength behind flexibility to your clients, um, I was to, I was trying to say, you know, it's, it's good to be a yogi, but it's better to be a strong yogi. And that's just what building you need to maintain that flexibility, you're gonna need that strength. We all like to think we're better super bendy and a lot of people are, yeah. But they can cause injury, and then you're rolling ankles and those that want to, you want to incorporate building that strength, because I think most people have this preconceived notion of yoga. So sometimes just a stretch is actually building a lot of strength. I mean, the hardest thing sometimes in the world is to lift your own your own arms above your head, right without any pain or you know, without a struggle kind of thing or to sit on the ground. And, you know, inhaling your arms up and reach afford to touch your toes. It's, it's tough. So yeah, yeah. I think when you build that strength, and you incorporate that the circuit side of things into it, you start to see the benefits and your flexibility and everything. And I think sometimes people have that, you know, thing of, Oh, where am I just do yoga. It's just this I'm just stretching and all that kind of stuff. And if you do, if, or if you're just doing, you know, strength clannish, core strength classes, you're building your strength, where it actually is kind of the it's shortening your muscles, and you're actually getting tighter, and we're all aging and we're getting tighter. And you do you have to be holistic about your fitness. Just like you have to be holistic about your diet or anything else that you do. Yeah. Clearly, I'm a big fan. So, you know, with now you're coming up on about a year that you've been open. Yeah, it was a year a couple weeks ago. Yep. Okay. And where do you see the business going? Like, how was it growing and what's been working for you, um, we're just continuing to grow. I think that's been the fun part. And most of the learning curve for me is just trying to figure out how to, to get people in the door and, you know, brick and mortar, so you know, social media is great, but word of mouth is the best thing. So, it's just continued to build that community. That so that we're seeing people form friendships and bonds outside of the yoga studio, you know, so we have people like, for instance, like on Wednesday night, we have a big group that goes down, there's a place called Mordecai, I was gonna say, we're gonna talk about mortar. That's probably one of my favorite little draft houses little beer shops. I love it. I love the movie nights that they do. So if you're familiar with is it center was the shopping center is that center gateway gateway shopping center. That's where a Reiki on a trip over and that's where Mordecai is. It's a great little shop. And I think there's gonna be a restaurant opening up in there too. Called fine folk. Yes. Which is gonna be great. Yeah, it's nice to be a part of a growing shopping center. It's because it's there's a huge community behind this. And I think the more people I know downtown's, kind of like where everybody's at. But people are starting to kind of like, you know, once you get going to get tired of downtown, you come in, or you just move nice, right? Because you don't want to part of downtown. I LOVE EAST Raleigh, because you've got the Alamo movie theater, which is so cool. That's one of my favorite. I when I was working with homebuyers, I would be like, but let's go here. This is where we can go. You want to be close to downtown. So it's an awesome location. Absolutely love it. So I have to ask you about your hat. Okay. Selfmade dues paid. Yeah. Talk to me a little bit about it. Um, I mean, I saw it on Instagram. It registered with me. I can't remember the guys name. Luke something. He's a tattoo artist, and it just resonated with me. I just know, more of the hard work and positivity part. I mean, the dues paid kind of thing to self made a little bit because I've had help along the way, but it's just it's a great hat. I mean, I love it. I love it. And you're right. You know, it takes a support system who's your support system? By parents? My girlfriend Mary, the Reynolds family, they own the yoga studio, the corporate yoga studios. My friend Steve, who owns the one of my partners, I have two partners in this. So you know, Shannon and Liz and we just all work together and you know, just trying to do for the greater good Yeah, you know, I'll be successful. So I love that, you know, creating a team, as you, you know, embark into something that's new and foreign is so important. So, um, is there anything else you want everybody to know about Reiki on? Yeah, I mean, I want if you have done yoga before, I've never done yoga before in your life, come try it out. And the greatest thing about it is we offer the, you can come in and you know, do a strength workout and do the hit classes. Or you can come in and do yoga, and you can do the easiest yoga classes we got, or the hardest yoga classes. It's fun for everybody. So I've watched your Instagram, and it does look like you guys have a lot of fun. Yeah, I think I think there's a certain amount of joy you get, even when you're tired and sweating hard. I mean, I think working out working out is where it's at. So I mean, it's just something everyone should incorporate in their life. And the greatest thing we offer right now is that you can pay $30 for 20 consecutive days of yoga. And that gets you with the way everything is now that gets you access to our in person classes. And our virtual classes. Oh, I love that. So how do people find you online? So you can go to a rookie on.com AR r i c h i o n, that calm and once you click on the webpage, there is a list of studios and once you go to the list just look on click on nice Raleigh. You'll see all the information on there you see my information, your beautiful artwork. Yeah. And, or you can check me on Instagram. And this basically, like find out more about it. So I love it. Okay, so I got to ask some random questions. Do you like to read? Are you a book guy? Nah, not really. I challenge you to start picking up some books. I send you a couple of recommendations. Favorite TV show? Seinfeld sign to lane. I didn't. I don't know where I was at the late 90s Seinfeld. I can watch Seinfeld. Hysterical. That's something that's noteworthy. I love it. And you know, best advice for somebody that is thinking about either doing a franchise doing their own business what what what could you give them from some of the things that you've learned? Read, read over your paperwork. Know that some things aren't going to go as planned and be ready to pivot. And just have an open mind and be positive. I mean, have good have a have a good energy to you. I mean, so know that it's gonna be hard work. Right? If you're ready to invest, and I can't say that enough. Awesome. Well, it's been a pleasure to have your bishop loved every minute. 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